Comments on: Direct and Indirect Objects http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/ Crunchy Freaks R Us Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:42:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: raymond pert http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5197 raymond pert Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:45:41 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5197 I would love to see such a lesson work with the transitive verb lay and the intransitive verb lie. The word lay, in the present tense always should have a direct object. The word lie, in the present tense never has a direct object. So, in keeping with your sexy example, I would think that students could remember that, grammatically speaking, when one lays someone, there is an agent of the deed and a grammatical recipient. Someone gets laid. But with lie, as in "I'm going to lie down", no one gets laid. So you can lay carpet, lay linoleum, lay your lover, but you don't get tired and lay down. You lie down. I know you know this, but i'm an English teacher and I was just trying out a lesson. No lie. I would love to see such a lesson work with the transitive verb lay and the intransitive verb lie.

The word lay, in the present tense always should have a direct object.

The word lie, in the present tense never has a direct object.

So, in keeping with your sexy example, I would think that students could remember that, grammatically speaking, when one lays someone, there is an agent of the deed and a grammatical recipient. Someone gets laid.

But with lie, as in “I’m going to lie down”, no one gets laid.

So you can lay carpet, lay linoleum, lay your lover, but you don’t get tired and lay down.

You lie down.

I know you know this, but i’m an English teacher and I was just trying out a lesson.

No lie.

]]> By: Alice http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5126 Alice Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:48:13 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5126 "Except if you turn the sentence into “He did her a favor” her becomes the indirect object. What he is actually doing is the favor, and he is doing it for her, so the example doesn’t hold up any more." Oh fine, be right then. See if I care. ;) “Except if you turn the sentence into “He did her a favor” her becomes the indirect object. What he is actually doing is the favor, and he is doing it for her, so the example doesn’t hold up any more.”

Oh fine, be right then. See if I care. ;)

]]> By: Stacie http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5116 Stacie Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:48:19 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5116 Ah, you've got me on a technicality. However, since I use this kind of trick to teach Latin and am always looking for a tricks to help translation (translate the dative, which is the indirect object more often than not, with "to" or "for" in this case) it still has pedagogical possibilities. <b{He threw her</b> and <b>He threw her the book</b> perhaps? Ah, you’ve got me on a technicality. However, since I use this kind of trick to teach Latin and am always looking for a tricks to help translation (translate the dative, which is the indirect object more often than not, with “to” or “for” in this case) it still has pedagogical possibilities.

and He threw her the book perhaps?

]]> By: Becca34 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5110 Becca34 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:34:16 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5110 Wouldn't "her" in your second sentence actually be the object of the preposition, not the indirect object? (Since "to" is a preposition...) Wouldn’t “her” in your second sentence actually be the object of the preposition, not the indirect object? (Since “to” is a preposition…)

]]> By: Swistle http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5024 Swistle Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:05:36 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5024 I had one high school teacher who used this sort of thing in her teaching. I remember EVERY SINGLE THING SHE EVER SAID. I'll bet the rest of the class does, too. I ran into an old classmate the other day, and I said, "I still remember how to spell 'rhythm' by saying..." and we finished together: "...ride hard, you thick-headed monster." I had one high school teacher who used this sort of thing in her teaching. I remember EVERY SINGLE THING SHE EVER SAID. I’ll bet the rest of the class does, too. I ran into an old classmate the other day, and I said, “I still remember how to spell ‘rhythm’ by saying…” and we finished together: “…ride hard, you thick-headed monster.”

]]> By: Stacie http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5023 Stacie Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:26:56 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5023 Except if you turn the sentence into "He did her a favor" <b>her</b> becomes the indirect object. What he is actually doing is the favor, and he is doing it <b>for</b> her, so the example doesn't hold up any more. Except if you turn the sentence into “He did her a favor” her becomes the indirect object. What he is actually doing is the favor, and he is doing it for her, so the example doesn’t hold up any more.

]]> By: Alice http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5022 Alice Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:03:33 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5022 Oooops...I meant at the end, not the beginning. Oooops…I meant at the end, not the beginning.

]]> By: Alice http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5021 Alice Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:03:14 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5021 Just tell the board you forgot the add "...a favor." at the beginning. It was an innocent mistake, really! Just tell the board you forgot the add “…a favor.” at the beginning. It was an innocent mistake, really!

]]> By: Stacie http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5020 Stacie Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:44:15 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5020 Jennie -- What, you WANTED me to get fired? Jennie — What, you WANTED me to get fired?

]]> By: kate http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5018 kate Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:14:47 +0000 http://twinkies.bastetweb.com/2007/08/30/direct-and-indirect-objects/#comment-5018 hee hee hee hee hee hee

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